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Title: Release question
Post by: jt85 on August 30, 2017, 12:28:00 AM
Alright I have 2 tie on nock points on my strings the top is glued down and the bottom is loose. When I shoot with a tab the bottom nock point keeps rolling down the serving and I have to readjust it, when shooting with a glove it stays in place. So my question is does this mean I'm getting a cleaner release with the glove?
My accuracy seems to be about the same with both glove or tab.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: batbow on August 30, 2017, 01:18:00 AM
Had the same problem, glued the bottom one as well - no more problems.
Release question, I have no idea!
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: Buckeye1977 on August 30, 2017, 09:14:00 AM
I glue mine also
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: Josh H on August 30, 2017, 09:42:00 AM
What glue do you use? Does it not affect the string?
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: lt-m-grow on August 30, 2017, 09:47:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Buckeye1977:
I glue mine also
Me too.

And my guess is you put different pressure on different fingers when you switch between the glove and tab.  In this case you may be putting more pressure under the arrow with the tab.

When you do that it creates a steeper angle at the nock which forces the arrow to push the bottom nock down to make room for the arrow to stay on the string.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: lt-m-grow on August 30, 2017, 09:49:00 AM
If you want to see that angle change - pull three under and then pull split finger...you will see what the arrow needs to do between the nocks for sure.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: David McLendon on August 30, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
If your nock is wound on in the same direction as the serving it will thread into the serving and be pretty tight. You will be able to twist it to adjust it but will require some effort which is what you want. If wound in the opposite direction from the serving then it will not lock in but just be across the top of the serving and will move around requiring gluing. It's unlikely that the glove is making much contact with the nock due to the curved shape, as opposed to the flat and straight edge of the tab.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: LongbowArchitect on August 30, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
"What glue do you use? Does it not affect the string?" I dab the string nocks w/ Super Glue and it does not affect the string in any way except staying put on it. I periodically dab more Super Glue on the string nocks if they show any wear.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: Buckeye1977 on August 30, 2017, 11:43:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by LongbowArchitect:
"What glue do you use? Does it not affect the string?" I dab the string nocks w/ Super Glue and it does not affect the string in any way except staying put on it. I periodically dab more Super Glue on the string nocks if they show any wear.
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Title: Re: Release question
Post by: Fattony77 on August 30, 2017, 01:54:00 PM
Sounds to me like your tab is just high enough above your finger that it's touching the nock set, causing it to spin upon release. The glove, being more contoured to the shape of your fingers, isn't making contact with the nock set, so nothing happens at the release.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: jt85 on August 30, 2017, 07:24:00 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate all your thoughts . I'm taking it that it's not a better release with the glove just contacts the string a little different.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: McDave on August 30, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
This (http://youtu.be/j8EghWvyUcA/)  video by Ryan Sanpei shows the string nock I use.  It doesn't require gluing, which makes it easy to cut off and switch.  One thing I like is his method of tightening the knot after you position it where you want, which I've used in other applications.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: Fattony77 on August 31, 2017, 02:34:00 AM
I just realized that it was you that posted this, Jason. Lol.   :knothead:   There's a shoot down in Choctaw this weekend. We should try to meet up and I can see if I can spot what's happening. If you can't make it down there for that, then we can meet up at the range there in the 'Quah in the next couple of weeks. Give me a holler, my number is still the same.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: Red Beastmaster on August 31, 2017, 07:59:00 AM
Why have two nock points? Take the bottom one off, end of problem.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: OkieBowHunter11 on September 01, 2017, 12:54:00 AM
Recently started shooting a tab haven't noticed this problem yet but I've only been shooting with tab a couple of days. My Nock is also tied in but on another note I'm shooting a lot better with it vs my shooting glove. I can't tell that the Nock is rotating yet but I will pay more attention now
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: jt85 on September 01, 2017, 10:58:00 PM
I thank you all again for the replies but I believe some of you missed the question completely. I was asking if the bottom nock moving meant I was twisting the string or something with my tab that I'm not doing with my glove. I know I can glue the nock down just wondering if I am getting a better release from my glove.
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: McDave on September 01, 2017, 11:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jt85:
I thank you all again for the replies but I believe some of you missed the question completely. I was asking if the bottom nock moving meant I was twisting the string or something with my tab that I'm not doing with my glove. I know I can glue the nock down just wondering if I am getting a better release from my glove.
I really think this is something everyone has to answer for himself.  Most competitive trad archers shoot with a tab.  Rick Welch shoots with a glove.  The reason he shoots with a glove is because he believes he hits his face with a tab.  If you believe the reason the bottom nock was moving was because of your tab, maybe you should use a glove.  The point is, you can probably be as accurate either way, so why not use the way that gives you more confidence?
Title: Re: Release question
Post by: jt85 on September 01, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
Thanks McDave, I'm probably just over thinking and trying to get to complicated.