Alright so i've decided that I am going to go with a 2 blade 150 gr with 1916 shafts.
Bow is a high performance recurve that is 41# at my draw of 27".
What would you guys recommend for 2 blades in the 150ish gr category, more pointy less tanto tips.
A Zwickey Eskilite with a long "Sweetland" aluminum adapter weighs around 145 grains. An Ace Standard 125 grain with a short 25 grain aluminum adapter will get you at 150 grains also. If you don't want to mess with all that, a Magnus Stinger can be had in 150 grains. I'm sure there are many more, these just came to mind.
If you're looking for a screw in go with a magnus stinger or buzzcut
I'm a fan of Zwickey Eskimos 125gr. Depends on the arrows I'm using, some times I use a long alum insert and other times a 100gr steel insert. Been using them for over 30 yrs. I've tried other heads but always seem to come back to Zwickeys. Easy to sharpen, good flight, and not to expensive.
Hard to beat a stinger
Look at Cutthroats from RMSgear. They are a great head.
As mentioned above you cant go wrong with the stinger either. I would not recommend the buzzcut though.
Im curious FerretWYO...
Can you explain your aversion to the buzzcut?
I'd go with the two blade stinger. I use grizzlies and really like them but those stingers are fool proof and because they have a more cut on contact tip they will out penetrate many others.
The magnus stinger has a lot of pluses for the newbie: they come razor sharp, might be the best flying head available, basically you can screw them in and hunt with them without worrying about much.
To resharpen them simply touch them up on the wheel or Accu sharp.
Double bevel- Magnus Stinger. Single bevel- Grizzly. Both have performed without fail for me.
A very sharp one.......Ace, Eskimo, Magnus, and a host of others.
I was just playing around with some 190 Ribtecs. The design of those tends to give them a clockwise turn going into my deer target. So I put a few on some right wing fletched arrows and sharpened them with the Tom Mussato method using a file with two safety edges which allows a single file teeth cutting row of serration teeth and I leaned the the serration to cut into that same clockwise rotation. I am going to shoot a deer with those. if they can kill a deer a good as they killed my deer target, they will work.
I really like the Magnus Stingers. I've had great success with them.
Some really good suggestions above, except maybe the Stinger Buzzcut (explanation later). I think the better choice, if you are new and aren't sure about sharpening are the Stinger 150 grain, 2 blade (not buzzcut).
Schmidty3, here is the explanation, it is not mine as I am no expert. From "The Archery Bible" by Fred Bear page 73, right column, second paragraph:
"Serrated and sawtooth edges on a broadhead should be avoided. While they look wicked, actually the teeth fill with hair, tallow and tissue and thus impede clean cutting and penetration"
Others use them and say they produce good results though. FWIW Fred Bear also said to use 4-blade heads and stay away from 2 blades on the opposite page so YMMV.
I don't use two blades but if I did I would use a Simmons Tiger Shark . Not to hard to sharpen, 145 grains, flies great and cuts a pretty wide slot !
For someone who wants a sharp "out of the pack" head, the Stinger is tough to beat. If you have any sharpening skills at all, I'd go with the time-tested, time-proven Zwickeys. I cant quite understand guys buying heads that cost 2-3-4 times as much as the proven Zwickey. Then again, different strokes for different folks as they say.
125 Ace Standard with adapter will weigh 155 grains. great head easy to sharpen and you won't find a head a better price.
I have always used Zwickeys for ease of sharpening, but I mounted up some ace this year and they appear even easier to get scary sharp. Hair shaving sharp is the key, whatever you choose.
I really like my Cutthroat broadheads from RMSG. They are a bit pricey but have an awesome warranty. I already turned in 1 in for a replacement head. Ken
I'm currently using Centaur Big Game Heads. They are big and do a great job on game.
A generous person sent me 6 Eskimos a while back, I just mounted and sharpened them on a new set of arrows for my wife. She is very possessive when it comes to 'her' Zwickey Eskimos.
Zwickey, Eskimo.
I'm another stinger guy for screw in set ups
Any SHARP, cut on contact head that you can tune well for your shaft. Sharp is the key.
cutthroats...
Anyone have experience with those tuskers?
I shoot 45# @28" out of a fast Drake recurve. When I went to a 2 blade, I decided to try the single-bevel Grizzly. I've shot two deer with it with great results! With the poundage you're shooting, I'd go with the 125gr Grizzly and aluminum adaptors. It's pointier than the 160gr heads I use.
Joe
Vpa penetrators for me. I have had really good luck on big boars with these heads. I shoot the 3 blade terminators for deer and the 2 blade penetrators in the same grain fly exactly the same and are east to sharpen. They are tough as hell as well.
Cutthroats! Buy them and never look back. They are like tanks!
Badgers are pretty bomb proof.
If you are concerned about penetration a Hunter's Head (now from Three Rivers) sharpened Mussato style has proven very effective for me for a number of deer. I shot a deer with an original last year along a switch grass field. Normally I would go for a 150 wide Deadhead in that situation, but this one caught me by surprise. A lost arrow pass through and the deer went down quickly and in sight with a gushing blood trail that I didn't need to follow. Of course, I was not using anything like a Holy Grail, just a 50@26 duo shooter JD Berry.
Kevin said,
QuoteSome really good suggestions above, except maybe the Stinger Buzzcut (explanation later). I think the better choice, if you are new and aren't sure about sharpening are the Stinger 150 grain, 2 blade (not buzzcut).
QuoteSchmidty3, here is the explanation, it is not mine as I am no expert. From "The Archery Bible" by Fred Bear page 73, right column, second paragraph: "Serrated and sawtooth edges on a broadhead should be avoided. While they look wicked, actually the teeth fill with hair, tallow and tissue and thus impede clean cutting and penetration"
We all revere Fred Bear but he was marketing his Bear Razorhead. Before that he was file sharpening Eskimo broadheads
Hard to say you got Mr.Fred saying serrated bad then you got Mr.Hill saying he only serrates his.
QuoteOriginally posted by Ron LaClair:
Kevin said,
QuoteSome really good suggestions above, except maybe the Stinger Buzzcut (explanation later). I think the better choice, if you are new and aren't sure about sharpening are the Stinger 150 grain, 2 blade (not buzzcut).
QuoteSchmidty3, here is the explanation, it is not mine as I am no expert. From "The Archery Bible" by Fred Bear page 73, right column, second paragraph: "Serrated and sawtooth edges on a broadhead should be avoided. While they look wicked, actually the teeth fill with hair, tallow and tissue and thus impede clean cutting and penetration"
We all revere Fred Bear but he was marketing his Bear Razorhead. Before that he was file sharpening Eskimo broadheads [/b]
QuoteOriginally posted by Ari_Bonn:
Hard to say you got Mr.Fred saying serrated bad then you got Mr.Hill saying he only serrates his.
We're fortunate to have experts like Mr. LaClair, Mr. Bear and Mr. Hill to give us advice from the "real world".
Unfortunately, even the legends like those fellas don't always agree.
Broadheads have changed over the years since the days of Fred Bear and Howard Hill. There wasn't a manufactured head like the Magnus Buzzcut or the SteelForce or the out of production Raptor.
People made their own version like the LaClair Lacerator.
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I have shot 48 deer with serrated broadheads and not once have I had the head choked with tallow or cover with more than one or two strands of hair. I did find a rocky mountain head once that was covered with dry hair, under that was matted hair. It was a full length 25 diameter easton shaft and missing one plastic fletch. A couple hundred yards later I found a doe laying on the open field with the missing plastic fletch in the entrance wound. Different heads have different benefits from one edge or the other, depending the metal hardness and the shape of the head.
There are several good heads on the market and you will get many opinions. I've always used Magnus II two blades. They always flew very well for me.
I had to go to new heads this year due to bow change.
Based on all of the good things said here and other site, I have two packs of Magnus Stingers coming.
I sure hope that they are as sharp as claimed.
Remember the Wasp 3, 4, and 6 blade heads? Now there was a broadhead.
I think I have tried most of the broadheads mentioned. My preference is the Eclipse and Grizzly, they are both built solid. I've have used them to take a critters from as small as a hun to as large as a moose and bison; Never had either of them fail. I can't say that about some of the others that have been mentioned.