I'm in search of some new broad heads. Obviously I'll need to shoot and spin test them to verify that they work with my setup but as of now these are the specs that I'm looking for:
- 225 gr
- screw in
- two blade
- right wing, single bevel design
- durable design
- at least a 1" cut, but a 1 1/8"-1 1/4" would likely be a bit better
These will be used primarily on deer, feral pigs, and turkey. They may occasionally see use on elk, alligator, and a black bear or two. I hunt primarily Arkansas land, barbed heads are legal here and would be
slightly preferred to a non-barbed head as sometimes that makes arrow recovery easier after the shot; however this absolutely isn't a requirement or a focus. I want a head that will penetrate well, not be destroyed every time it hits a bone or the ground behind the animals, and that shoots true to my field points point of impact.
225 exact, screw in, off the shelf the closest thing would be from Steelforce.
If youre ok with a few grains leeway (a few should be negligible on tuning) and/or ok with gluing in adapters (easy),
then I highly recommend you check out both
Cutthroat and/or Grizzly broadheads
Either of those makes should fit the bill, my preference being the Cutthroats (I own both), they are awesome.
My vote would be 190 grain Tusker Concorde + aluminum adapter (42 grains).
Braveheart carries the Concordes for $25 per 6 and adapters for $4 per 6.
I'd run a long aluminium adapter in a 185 grizzly. Ought to come out real close.
QuoteOriginally posted by nineworlds9:
225 exact, screw in, off the shelf the closest thing would be from Steelforce.
If youre ok with a few grains leeway (a few should be negligible on tuning) and/or ok with gluing in adapters (easy),
then I highly recommend you check out both
Cutthroat and/or Grizzly broadheads
Either of those makes should fit the bill, my preference being the Cutthroats (I own both), they are awesome.
Adaptors are fine. I looked also at the Zwickey No Mercy heads with a 42gr adaptor and some glue should be within 5gr of 225.
I need to keep it to 225 total weight though +/-5gr as my other arrows are based on a 100gr insert and 125 point. I shoot field points, rubber bludgeons, Judo points, and small game heads a lot. I want my broadhead tipped arrows to tune and shoot the same. I have some 125gr Badgers but want to add point weight to the head itself so that I can have a longer and more efficient head due to lower angle on cutting edge and build the blades up a little thicker and in theory make them stronger against bone and the ground behind the animals.
Perhaps look at the Helix broadheads?
If it helps, I shoot a mixture of arrows and heads sometimes using standard inserts(25gr I believe) and 200gr broadheads, and 100gr brass inserts and 125gr heads. I see no diffrence in impact point or arrow flight. So based on that info it may widen the variety of heads you can look at. I currently hunt with 200gr VPA 3 blades and 125gr Magnus 2 blade with 100gr insert,but I have really been drooling over some 200gr Cutthroats.
I shoot the Abowyer Brown Bear 175 grain with the Abowyer 50 grain titanium glue in/screw on insert or 125 grain eclipse with 100 grain steel glue in/screw on insert both have performed well. The cutthroats are really nice and will be my next broad heads they are solid and sharpen great.
Lots of combinations will hit 225. My pick would be the Grizzly, but way back when Grizzlies first came out they were only right wing. The matching to fletch just happened by accident for me, I had a right wing fletcher. With my aluminum arrows I noticed they unscrewed and got loose in both practice and when hitting deer, so I used Loctite on the threads. Then I went to one piece glue-on adapters. Left wings stay tighter on screw in adapters for me when target practicing.
QuoteOriginally posted by Wapiti Chaser:
I shoot the Abowyer Brown Bear 175 grain with the Abowyer 50 grain titanium glue in/screw on insert or 125 grain eclipse with 100 grain steel glue in/screw on insert both have performed well.
This combo is SOLID and scary lethal. :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve O:
QuoteOriginally posted by Wapiti Chaser:
I shoot the Abowyer Brown Bear 175 grain with the Abowyer 50 grain titanium glue in/screw on insert or 125 grain eclipse with 100 grain steel glue in/screw on insert both have performed well.
This combo is SOLID and scary lethal. :thumbsup: [/b]
This Brown Bear set up is my go to!
QuoteOriginally posted by TradBrewSC:
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve O:
QuoteOriginally posted by Wapiti Chaser:
I shoot the Abowyer Brown Bear 175 grain with the Abowyer 50 grain titanium glue in/screw on insert or 125 grain eclipse with 100 grain steel glue in/screw on insert both have performed well.
This combo is SOLID and scary lethal. :thumbsup: [/b]
This Brown Bear set up is my go to! [/b]
This looks like it may have excellent potential! I'll have to try some of these out and see if everything works out. In the past, and I don't know why really, I've noticed that sometimes certain broadheads just sort them selves apart from the pack for good or bad with accuracy. Makes trying out a pile of new heads speedy at times but that's the way it goes.
Go up 25gr or down 25gr and get some Cutthroat from Rmsgear! They also make a 160 glue on that you can get close with the right adapter!
The quality and value of Grizzlies is pretty hard to beat. 125 Grizzly +100gr adapter = 225gr.
I use the 185 + 125 adapter. I just received a new pack from 3 rivers. They are top notch!
Tedd
QuoteOriginally posted by Trumpkin the Dwarf:
Perhaps look at the Helix broadheads?
Now those are some interesting looking designs! That said, I'd almost rather have something without a shoulder in the cutting edge so that it'll be easier to maintain sharpness.
Right now my top two to look into trying are:
Abowyer Brown Bear and 50gr adapter
185gr Grizzly with long Al adapter
I've been checking out the Eclipse Werewolf line,but unfortunately nothing quite in the range you mentioned. They do have some on both sides of it though.
love the brown bear
Another vote for the RMS Cutthroats, they are solid heads all around. I have some Valkyrie Bloodeagles on the way that I'm looking forward to trying also.
I would recommend helix if you must have a screw in design. Although I've been shooting 225 gr grizzlies for the past two seasons by adding the appropriate weight insert.
Without knowing what arrow you are shooting I will add that if it's something with a fully threaded insert like a standard Goldtip or carbon express, you can add a 7/8 8-32 setscrew to the back of the inserts for about$3 per dozen. Theses weight 26 gr and open the door for 200 gr heads like the cutthroat.
Cutthroats... Even I can get them really sharp.
I'm going into the woods with the new Bonebroadheads. They're only out in 125 or 200, so like Cutthroats you'd have to either add a little weight or adjust your length to compensate. Cutthroats are another good option, I just like the idea that the shape ofvthe Bonebroadhead puts the weight a little further foreward.
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I love my Cutthroats!!! 200 gr with an adapter :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
I'd run a long aluminium adapter in a 185 grizzly. Ought to come out real close.
My thoughts exactly. Have done this myself and the ones I weighed were 228gr.
Hard to beat the 185 Grizzly on a long al adapter.
I can get the Grizzlies scary sharp!
If anyone has some 185 Grizzlies on long Al adaptors that I could try let me know. I'll start there and test for accuracy then if they shoot well for me build some dedicated shafts for them with all my heads oriented horizontal at my natural level of cant.
Garrett,
PM me an address and I will mail you one to tryout.
QuoteOriginally posted by Jwilliam:
Garrett,
PM me an address and I will mail you one to tryout.
Thank you sir. PM sent. I'll have it back in the mail to you within a couple days of getting it in and sending it through my Block foam target to verify that they hold point of impact for me. If it flies right for me then I'll order a dozen and have them ready by opening day.
I have had great results with the Abowyer Brown Bear and the titanium insert. And, although I haven't tried the 225 yet, the Tuffhead 250s are darned good and pretty darn sharp right out of the pack!
Whatever you do, I encourage you NOT to use an aluminum screw in adapter! That will definitely be the weakest point in your arrow! If you doubt that, compare what it takes to snap one to the same test on a titanium or steel adapter!
I've got some Steel Force Traditional series 225gr broadheads that I'd be will to trade or sell if your interested.
These are http://www.3riversarchery.com/steel-force-broadheads-traditional-series.html
right wing, single bevel, and actually weigh about 220gr. I have a 5gr weight that I put behind them to make up the difference. They've never been used beyond me seeing how they'd draw from my back quiver and on my bow. I'm not good enough to hunt yet, and I don't need the temptation.
I'd be willing to trade for some 60-65 Doug fir arrow shafts or some solid colored right wing green and orange 5" shield cut feathers. Would also trade for a good shooting glove.