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Title: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Boognish on July 05, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
is a fixed crawl the quickest and most accurate way to shoot for most people who hunt? pros and cons?
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Breathn on July 05, 2017, 10:22:00 PM
I've been using it for 2 yrs now and love it..extended my max range about 10yds with it..have had 2 great seasons using it.
I usually don't have to crawl much since I actually use my broadhead blade turned straight up and use the tip of it..shooting 200 fps I crawl about 3/8-1/2 inch doing this and it works well.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Orion on July 05, 2017, 11:29:00 PM
I wouldn't say it's the quickest or the most accurate, but it works for many who use it. Speed and accuracy depend more on the shooter than the method used.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: tracker12 on July 05, 2017, 11:32:00 PM
3 years for me.  After 45 years of using a sight I needed a better option than shooting instinct. FC has been great and amazingly accurate once you firm up your form.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: ranger 3 on July 06, 2017, 07:50:00 AM
Don't you have to know the distance like shooting with pins?
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: tracker12 on July 06, 2017, 08:57:00 AM
I will add that I tried it a couple years earlier and had poor results.  Mybrelease was very poor and I was coming forward on release vice pulling thru the release.  That caused very inconsistent up and down shots
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Chad Orde on July 06, 2017, 09:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by ranger 3:
Don't you have to know the distance like shooting with pins?
Yes you have to know your general distance, and it helps to know your arrow drop. Most guys will have a fixed crawl for 18-22 yards which is your normal hunting range.

I have played with fixed crawl but find "for me" instinctive is still more accurate. That said I have only played with it not dedicated allot of time to it. I think if you really focused on it for 1-3 months you could and would get good at it. I defiantly see its advantages for shots on game animals.
I also believe you could shoot both instinctive and fixed crawl successfully because they are different enough that they wouldn't conflict with each other.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: KeganM on July 06, 2017, 10:20:00 AM
Only way to know if it works for you is to try it. I'm an aimer but found the nock and string would hit my glasses. Have to just run a high NP and heavy arrow to get smaller gaps at 25-and-under.

If I ever get rid of my glasses I will revisit a fixed crawl, though.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Friend on July 06, 2017, 09:05:00 PM
May prove to be a significant advantage to many.

My typical point on is 25 yards thus a fixed crawl is not an advantage when hunting whitetail where it is conceivable that I may take out to 25 yard shot.

For turkeys, my effective range is significantly reduced and have set my point-on at 15 yards.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on July 06, 2017, 09:20:00 PM
It is one of many aiming methods. If you're the kind of archer who likes to use the arrow tip to aim (string walkers & fixed crawl shooters) then this system is for you. I happen to SW and FC shoot, so it works for me. If you're a gap shooter or traditional archer, or any of the combinations thereof, then fixed crawl will not work for those folks.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on July 06, 2017, 09:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Friend:
May prove to be a significant advantage to many.

My typical point on is 25 yards thus a fixed crawl is not an advantage when hunting whitetail where it is conceivable that I may take out to 25 yard shot.

For turkeys, my effective range is significantly reduced and have set my point-on at 15 yards.
Are you a gap shooter?
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Friend on July 06, 2017, 09:30:00 PM
longbow fanatic 1....

Have experienced identical results over the years whether utilizing split vision, gap or point of aim. Have been utilizing point of aim all this year.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: katman on July 06, 2017, 10:01:00 PM
Have been shooting fixed crawl exclusively since deer season ended this past January, If your form is solid it is deadly accurate once you get the proper tune. In the beginning I had to estimate distance, now it is more or less ingrained where to hold tip by looking at the target.
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Tedd on July 06, 2017, 10:43:00 PM
I tried it once or twice. Did not give it a fair chance but my bow was loud, it was awkward, can't shoot 3 under, my eyes won't focus on the arrow,, I really don't think I can focus my eyes on it, my bow tune was way off, again my bow was loud, lost arrows and did not like the "mechanical" aspect. It's kinda the reason why I don't like a compound with sights. But I'm sure a practiced FC shooter would whip me badly on a 3d course. Being a some variation of a split vision/instinctive shooter I go through swings of great shooting where I can not imagine any method better than mine to periods where I'm not sure if I could hit a moose at 10 yards. Those time when I'm not good are when I think I should try fixed crawl.
I am thankful that most of my shots on deer come quick, in the woods, there isn't much time for anything but draw and shoot, I don't get much time for alignment and luckily shoot best on those deer. In Wyoming where I hunt whitetails each fall the shots at a deer standing in an open field are a real challenge for me. FC method would work well for that kind of hunting.
Tedd
Title: Re: fixed crawl for hunting
Post by: Russ Clagett on July 07, 2017, 12:19:00 PM
I use it now and will not go back. For most of my hunting shots (20 and in) it makes sense and works like beer in a can....

Over 20 I simply hold the tip of the arrow just a tad higher....

I did put reflective tap on the arrow shaft just behind the broadhead....never a problem seeing it.