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Title: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: Meflyfisherman on June 30, 2017, 05:38:00 PM
With the extra steel in the middle of the blade, do you need to modify this broadhead by filing the point into a chisel tip?
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: Snow Crow on June 30, 2017, 06:11:00 PM
I have slightly bent the original tip on Eskimos.  Have yet to bend either a chisel or tanto tipped Eskimo.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: Jmatt1957 on July 01, 2017, 06:38:00 AM
I put a chisel tip on mine, works great.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on July 01, 2017, 09:15:00 AM
I file mine to a rounded tip. It can still be spun on its tip to check straightness.

Necessary? Probably not.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: Meflyfisherman on July 01, 2017, 09:40:00 AM
sounds like a safe thing to do then
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: Orion on July 01, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
You can, but don't have to. Won't make any difference on deer size critters.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: on July 01, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
"There is no way that will leave a blood trail that I can follow."  That is what an ex-compound shooter told me a few of years back.  File, jewel stick, and a leather belt will make them sharp enough to melt hair off your arm.  I the broadhead tests they were not in the top three or so.  Hard to imagine that triple tip giving way.  That ex-compound shooter's last arrows from me had 145 Rib Tecs, he gets those sharp enough to melt hair off his arm as well.  The cool thing about the good old standard broadheads is that you don't have to over think what to do with them.  I have seen Eskimos go through bone on a deer without bending the tip, I wonder what it would take to bend them far enough to matter on penetration.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: ChuckC on July 01, 2017, 06:07:00 PM
Pavan, he may be right (..blood trail I can follow).  I have helped a fair number of folks track a wounded deer and they couldn't see anything except nickle sized or better drops right out in the open. Tracking is a learned skill and you need to acquire experience and practice.

Sharp / pointy tips are a potential problem,  any tip.  Once that front starts to bend, the rest behind it tends to bend.  Keep the front from bending in the first place and the head will stay straight.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: kennym on July 01, 2017, 11:06:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Pavan, he may be right (..blood trail I can follow).  I have helped a fair number of folks track a wounded deer and they couldn't see anything except nickle sized or better drops right out in the open. Tracking is a learned skill and you need to acquire experience and practice.

Sharp / pointy tips are a potential problem,  any tip.  Once that front starts to bend, the rest behind it tends to bend.  Keep the front from bending in the first place and the head will stay straight.
This !

I curled the needle tip on one Eskimo, chisel tips from then on thru a lot of deer and only one slightly bent head since,that on a buck 2 years ago that fell on it with the broadhead lodged in spine .

I won't use them without filing a chisel tip on them.

That is my 1.5 cents worth..   :)
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: JusAGuy on July 01, 2017, 11:13:00 PM
Is it OK if the Zwickey's just look cooler with a chisel tip? Ya know - that Mall Ninja/Tacticool look?!?  :laughing:
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: kennym on July 01, 2017, 11:15:00 PM
They look cooler with a chisel tip than a rolled back tip....  :D
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: kennym on July 01, 2017, 11:16:00 PM
And they probably don't bend that often but once was enough to suit me. And I got the deer, but don't like gambling on something so easy.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: on July 02, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
I round them a little on my wife's arrows, a natural thing to do with a file. Some of the guys do not.  With single bevel heads the tanto tip seems more like a a natural thing to do to meld across the cutting edges.  On a double bevel the tanto tip looks to be separate from the line of the cutting edges. The amount of power behind the head will make a difference on how quick they bend as well. The only head that I have ever seen damaged out of 48 deer was a three blade Wasp.  One blade stayed in the hide, one in a rib and about half of the third hung on and went through the heart.  The deer still went down in 20 yards, but with only a half of a pieces of that copper razor blade intact, lucky for me, it was still enough. That was out of 70 pound Schulz and a 2020 shaft. What a terrible combination, making a Schulz shoot a flimsy Wasp thing a ma jig.  I have never seen any other damage with bone contact on any other head.  I am sure it happens, just not in my experience.
Title: Re: Zwickey Eskimo Modification Needed?
Post by: JusAGuy on July 02, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by kennym:
And they probably don't bend that often but once was enough to suit me. And I got the deer, but don't like gambling on something so easy.
Agreed 100%!

It's good to be able to learn those lessons quick and the corrective action is such a minimal change.

Like you, I just can't see taking the risk of not having adequate penetration. Especially when preventing it is so easy.