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Title: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: TIM B on May 28, 2017, 08:10:00 AM
Question for you guys that do this - how exactly do you do it?  Do you cut to the perfect length or cut it long to pack it in kinda tight?  I see the paracord compressing itself after shooting a bit.....thanks for the input
Tim B
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: TIM B on May 28, 2017, 08:10:00 AM
I didn't wanna hyjack the other thread.....
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Terry Green on May 28, 2017, 11:05:00 AM
I use mini aquarium rubbing cut half inch long so it scrunches tight for no rattle
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: TIM B on May 28, 2017, 05:11:00 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Terry Green on May 28, 2017, 05:20:00 PM
And if that's not enough weight you can put weed eater line inside the aquarium tubing first.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: TIM B on May 28, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
Thanks again!
Do you glue your nocks in then also?
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Terry Green on May 28, 2017, 05:24:00 PM
I shoved in the front of the arrow glue the insert in that's what helps scrunch it
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: TIM B on May 28, 2017, 05:49:00 PM
Again I appreciate it!!
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: TIM B on May 29, 2017, 07:00:00 AM
Using Terry's method above (both tube and weed eater line) I was able to add about 200 gr to an arrow.  Scrunched tight - no rattle - perfect.  
If ya wanna add weight - give it a try
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: randy grider on May 29, 2017, 01:22:00 PM
why not just add weight to the point ? Something like that is bound to move inside the shaft. brass insertss, heavier points, or like a buddy uses on gold tips, .243 bullet glued right behind insert.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: p1choco on May 31, 2017, 12:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by randy grider:
why not just add weight to the point ? Something like that is bound to move inside the shaft. brass insertss, heavier points, or like a buddy uses on gold tips, .243 bullet glued right behind insert.
Just adding to the front weight will change the dynamic spine which will throw your tune out of whack. Adding weight tubes won't change your spine much but will reduce your FOC and your arrows will still be in tune.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Terry Green on June 01, 2017, 01:45:00 PM
No scrunched aquarium tubing cannot move
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: old_goat2 on June 01, 2017, 04:04:00 PM
I did it and my foc lowered so much the arrow looked like it was in paradox all the way to the target. Look through the podcast videos on here, he's a sponsor, he has a great video on it, he also mentions you should start with high foc

http://tbwpodcast.com
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Terry Green on June 01, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
I never had that kind of issue Old Goat but I'm not using 100 or 125 grain heads either ...haven't since the 80s
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: calgarychef on June 02, 2017, 11:47:00 PM
People still putting weigh inside the shafts. I guess Dr. AShby did all that experimenting for nothing.  It's "funny" how we forget about some information.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: mgf on June 03, 2017, 08:08:00 AM
I never had that problem and I do use 125 grain heads.

I put the weighted line in because I got some carbon arrows that only weight 7.3 grains/inch. Adding the line at about 3 grains/inch brings the weight (and foc) up to about where it is on my other arrows.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: 1Longbow on June 03, 2017, 10:25:00 AM
I use the flexible drinking straws in my gold Tips. The little flexible parts kinda locks the straw in place.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: old_goat2 on June 03, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by mgf:
I never had that problem and I do use 125 grain heads.

I put the weighted line in because I got some carbon arrows that only weight 7.3 grains/inch. Adding the line at about 3 grains/inch brings the weight (and foc) up to about where it is on my other arrows.
You must be using a different FOC Calculator and a different set of Laws of Physics than me if you are adding weight to your arrow and bringing up your FOC.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: old_goat2 on June 03, 2017, 10:54:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
I never had that kind of issue Old Goat but I'm not using 100 or 125 grain heads either ...haven't since the 80s
Yeah, my FOC was on the low end and it was a 32" arrow, so that really didn't help, my calculated FOC went from low to almost balanced in the middle, can't remember the numbers now. One of the draw backs to a long draw is full length arrows are a lot harder to bring the FOC up on.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Terry Green on June 03, 2017, 12:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by calgarychef:
People still putting weigh inside the shafts. I guess Dr. AShby did all that experimenting for nothing.  It's "funny" how we forget about some information.
Yeah chef......some (you)  also forget there's more than one way to skin a cat.... and seem some people not only forget (you) but some people (you) don't even know where the study originated.... care to guess where the foc study originated Calgary????

And why is it that some seem to continually take potshots at others yet offer no real contribution???...You???
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Keith Westbrook on June 03, 2017, 02:53:00 PM
Yep and some people forgot that they're supposed to be killing animals but I guess they really never knew how to since we don't see those type the post from those certain individuals. These people who take potshots after potshots and also seems like they're after the same individual.  Maybe if they could actually kill something they would have something to talk about besides trying to belittle people.

I certainly won't be holding my breath I can tell you that.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: kevsuperg on June 03, 2017, 03:46:00 PM
Right on Terry, gotta love a dude that speaks his mind.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: mgf on June 04, 2017, 08:19:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by old_goat2:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by mgf:
I never had that problem and I do use 125 grain heads.

I put the weighted line in because I got some carbon arrows that only weight 7.3 grains/inch. Adding the line at about 3 grains/inch brings the weight (and foc) up to about where it is on my other arrows.
You must be using a different FOC Calculator and a different set of Laws of Physics than me if you are adding weight to your arrow and bringing up your FOC. [/b]
It didn't bring the foc up...hello?...it brought the weight up. Now weight and foc are similar to all my other arrows.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: mgf on June 04, 2017, 08:33:00 AM
My foc measures about 24% (see edit). I don't know what kind of foc any of you are looking for but my arrows fly well and penetration is more than enough for anything I get to hunt.

The only problem I've had with weight tubes is nocks wanting to fly off. I glued them in.

Edit; sorry that was wrong. foc is about 12%. Balance point is at 19.25 on a 31 inch arrow.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Keith Westbrook on June 04, 2017, 11:46:00 AM
If I'm not mistaken 10% was pretty good with field tips back in the day and broadheads we're supposed to be at least 12 to get good arrow flight with the blades on the front.

It would be interesting to know what the FOC was on the Arrow toting a Delta four blade that killed two polar bears with one shot.
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Keith Westbrook on June 04, 2017, 04:57:00 PM
oh oh, I hear Tick Tock again!!!
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: mgf on June 05, 2017, 04:25:00 PM
My aluminum Easton xx75 Gamegetters come out almost exactly the same (with nothing added).
Title: Re: Adding paracord to carbon
Post by: Tim Reese on June 06, 2017, 10:11:00 PM
I just recently started trying paracord and I am still learning how to keep it in place. I cut it long and packed it in but apparently not enough. After a few shots it compacted and is loose now. I really like Terry's idea. Gonna try this also. The paracord was perfect to get the weight I wanted. I was at 435 grains  and got up to 520 grains with paracord. Which is about perfect for my 45#@29" bow.