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Title: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: david janssen on May 01, 2017, 08:14:00 PM
I have a 1966 Bear Kodiak 35# I draw 25 1/2" What size aluminum arrow and tip weight to use for target and 3-d archery?

Thanks for the advice,

David
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: mark Willoughby on May 01, 2017, 08:47:00 PM
1816 and 100 or 125
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: The Whittler on May 01, 2017, 08:54:00 PM
If it's 35# at your draw then 1816 should work. As for point weight 125gr. on down. You may even be able to shoot 1716.

For carbon 600 or 700 spine.

If you want to shoot wood I would talk to an arrow smith, they should help you. They do know their business. Good luck.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: crazynate on May 01, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
Yup what these guys said should work just fine In that range.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: david janssen on May 01, 2017, 09:19:00 PM
I only draw 25 1/2" with this bow the bow is marked 35# so I'm probably only drawing around 30#.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: DarrinG on May 01, 2017, 09:39:00 PM
1716 w/ 100 or 125g points. Bareshaft each point weight and tune from there.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: McDave on May 02, 2017, 10:01:00 AM
Spine stiffens as you cut the arrows shorter, so a discussion of spine also needs to include shaft length. I teach classes with 25# recurves, which bare shaft fine with 1616's cut to 29" and the standard built in target point, which I believe is 50 grains.  The advantage of this setup is that you get pretty good performance out of a 25# bow, which most students are probably only drawing to 20# or so.  Since you aren't going to use the bow for hunting, there's no reason not to use the lightest arrow possible, which means leaving it longer, using a lower spine, and a lighter point.  Given those considerations, in your case I would opt for a 1716 full length (even though a lot is going to stick out in front of your bow) with the built in target point that comes with it.

If you are inclined to do any bare shaft testing, and it comes out weak, then you can cut back the length some.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: dirtguy on May 02, 2017, 10:01:00 AM
Yep - the guys above are right a 1716 or 1816 should do it.  Easton aluminum Tribute arrows come in both of those denominations.  They a reasonable priced and fly nice.  Three Rivers has them and can set them up if you don't do that yourself.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: on May 02, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
If you are after good trajectory, something lighter than an 1816 would be better.  A 27" 1816 with a 145 head weighs about 440 grains, that is a heavy arrow for a 30 at 25.5" draw.  If lighter aluminums are not available a wood arrow that is cut closer to draw length would be a nicer weight to shoot and still be light enough spined. With your specs it would no fun at all to shoot anything that is to stiff and too heavy.  My wife shoots 27" 1816 with 145 up front for her 40 pound bows. I think an 1816 would too much arrow.  in a wood arrow you could go to a 30 pound spine 27" with 125 grain head.  If you were to go with a 1616 you may find that you will need to leave 28" long with a 125 grain head. All of my target 1616s from the old days had light target points. Not sure they make heavier point for those anymore.
Title: Re: Aluminum arrow question
Post by: LostNation_Larry on May 02, 2017, 01:53:00 PM
There are some things you may want to consider.  1716 is easily available with Easton Tribute shaft.  For 1616's you will have to look a little harder.  Apparently 1716's come with inserts (according to 3 Rivers web site).  I haven't researched it but I think some sizes only have the glue-in nib points.  If you want to experiment with point weight, keep that in mind.  Also, those light weight aluminums tend to be easy to bend.  I know the Easton Inspire carbon shaft comes in spines weak enough, but carbons have their own set of limitations.