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Title: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on April 18, 2017, 05:18:00 AM
What is the one broadhead you guys found to fly better than any other? I have noticed a marked difference in how forgiving some broadheads are in respect to arrow tuning compared to others. Some broadheads it seems like would only fly good out of perfectly tuned arrows, while others (very few) it seems like I could stick on the end of a pool cue or on the end of a flyrod and they would still fly like a field point! I have found that Howard Hill broadheads are like this. However they are extremely hard to sharpen
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: old_goat2 on April 18, 2017, 05:46:00 AM
I haven't found any that wouldn't fly good unless they weren't the right weight for the arrow/bow in question!
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: crazynate on April 18, 2017, 07:01:00 AM
I have never had an issue with any broadhead not flying good. I use mostly bear Razorheads and zwickey no mercys. Have tried a lot of heads. If your bow is  tuned correctly  it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: BWallace10327 on April 18, 2017, 07:03:00 AM
In my experience, most broadheads will fly great if the arrow it sits on flies well without feathers, unless the broadhead is bent some. Woodsmans have been the most tolerant of a poorly tuned arrow for me, but I prefer Zwickey Eskimo.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: SlowBowinMO on April 18, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
As mentioned most will fly well with a good tune, but there are definitely heads that tend to be more "forgiving" and fly extremely well even if tune is less than ideal or you make a poor release.  

I shoot more broadheads than anything, and get to try lots of them.  Here are a few I have noticed that have raised to the top of the heap in the forgiveness category:

Howard Hill
Hunter's Head
STOS
Tusker Javelin
Tusker Spirit
Woodsman

I imagine I've forgotten a few.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Michael Arnette on April 18, 2017, 09:50:00 AM
Those smaller zwickey Eskimos and mangus stingers are like that. I've shot them on arrows that were nothing close to tuned and gotten accurate flight. The VPA 3 blades are offly easy to get good flight with as well.
...then there are some heads I've messed with to no end and haven't gotten good flight. All Simmons heads would be in this category although I haven't tried the smaller ones only the treeshark and interceptors
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Michael Arnette on April 18, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
...yeah better add the woodsman to that list. Basically any head that is less then 1 1/8" and fairly short
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: tracker12 on April 18, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
Never had any bh fly bad out off my trad gear.  A tuned arrow with trad gear speeds should throw just about anything
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Zradix on April 18, 2017, 09:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Michael Arnette:
...yeah better add the woodsman to that list. Basically any head that is less then 1 1/8" and fairly short
That's about what I was going to say.
The longer and wider the head the more any tuning issues will be exaggerated....which is not to say a WIDE LONG head can't be tuned...it's just more picky.

I've found 3 blade VPA's to be very easy all around.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: wingnut on April 18, 2017, 10:26:00 AM
Heck I tune my bow using long/wide BHs to show the issues. It is all about proper tune unlike the compound world where they throw on an expandable and just shoot.

Mike
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Pete McMiller on April 18, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
It's all about the arrow tune.  I must have gotten good or lucky when tuning because I have never had an issue with BH flight.  I only shoot Grizzly Kodiak BHs which are long and wide.  They fly like darts - just like my field points.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: 9 Shocks on April 18, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
VPA 3 blades...easy to sharpen and easy to tune.
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Post by: Biathlonman on April 18, 2017, 01:40:00 PM
Easiest for me have always been Grizzlies and old MA3 heads.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: SuperK on April 18, 2017, 04:56:00 PM
Grizzlies, Howard Hills, Woodsman, Zwickey Eskimos and No Mercy.  I used to say that if your wooden arrow will shoot a field point good, it will shoot a Grizzly of the same weight good.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: drewsbow on April 18, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
vpa three blade and simmons two blade
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Zwickey-Fever on April 18, 2017, 09:17:00 PM
Zwickey Deltas fly great on woodies and carbons. Simmons Tiger Sharks fly just as good on my woodies as well.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Fletcher on April 18, 2017, 10:45:00 PM
I shoot Grizzly Kodiaks and Instincts with no flight issues, but I'm picky about tuning and paper tune.  Woodsmans and VPAs have always shot very well for me as well.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Gordon Jabben on April 18, 2017, 11:41:00 PM
Without a doubt, the Howard Hill broadhead flies as good as a field point even in wind and even if your arrows are of the wrong spine.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Deno on April 19, 2017, 03:09:00 AM
Howard Hill.   Eskimos

Deno
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Post by: Yooper-traveler on April 19, 2017, 12:50:00 PM
I also shoot 2 and 3 blade VPAs, Woodsmen, Grizzlies, Simmons, and Zwickey heads.  I really couldn't tell a difference out to 20 yards with a tuned bow/arrow.  This is from carbon, wood and aluminum.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Friend on April 19, 2017, 01:18:00 PM
No issues with BH flight.

Excellent flight with large sniffers and even larger Big 3's.

Have been shooting the wide Tree Sharks for quite some time. The flight is excellent and no additional tuning  beyond previous bare shaft tuning was required. Haven't tested beyond 35 yards, however they are spot-on with my field points at that range.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: two4hooking on April 19, 2017, 03:36:00 PM
If you like a Hill head you can sharpen easier try the Hunter Head.  
 (http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/20130819_214741_zpsf95cf4d5.jpg) (http://s481.photobucket.com/user/two4hooking/media/20130819_214741_zpsf95cf4d5.jpg.html)


Best of both worlds and you can do this if your state allows barbed heads:

 (http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/HH2_zpsnls7fipr.jpg) (http://s481.photobucket.com/user/two4hooking/media/HH2_zpsnls7fipr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: on April 19, 2017, 04:23:00 PM
I find that even my most most all thumbs friends can get a Hill hunting sharp with a 1/4" round Grobet file. What I showed is similar to what Nate does, just ending in a hard pull with the file reversed like Hill would do when putting on a serration, but at a flush angle to raise a burr.  Not exactly a shaving edge, but the deer and hogs that they have taken didn't seem to know that.  The Hunter's Heads are cheaper to buy than the Hills, and as far as I can tell are just as effective on deer.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Pointer on April 19, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
From my own experience I'd have to say is the old Bear Razorheads. They fly well from any bow I've ever owned
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: FlintNSteel on April 19, 2017, 08:40:00 PM
Not to sound like too much of a smart a** but the kind that has the right amount of fletch on the other end.     :)  

I've always been a proponent of enough fletch...4" four fletch, 5 1/2" 3 fletch, good helical on them.  I haven't found a broadhead yet in over 45 years of shooting broadheads that would not shoot with either of those on a properly spined shaft...and not only do they fly well, they hit where the field points do.

So that leaves me with being able to shoot what I like and over the years, a good Zwickey Delta is hard to beat for price or performance.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: on April 19, 2017, 09:37:00 PM
True that balance between fletch and head design, gets the job done most of the time.  I have seen things happen in high quartering and cross winds that have surprised me.  With  a lot of feather and a large head, and arrow can drift more, but things really catch ones attention when they take crazy side steps.  That is when a Hill head will out perform a head like the ones that I had at the time, the large Magnus.  A strong quartering tail wind with the wind buffeting off of a steep slope.  After I missed the first shot and the deer bolted, I took a second test shot with a Hill on the arrow, it was good and on the mark, then one with the wide solid Magnus and jumped all over the place again.  Prior to that I believed they flew the same, but I guess it was a variable that I did not consider until it happened.  It was a really big buck and I can still vividly see that arrow taking that huge side step.  Good thing that side step was a complete miss.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: BWD on April 20, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
The heads shot in combination with arrows.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Bowwild on April 20, 2017, 07:31:00 PM
I shoot a bunch of different ones out of two types of bows.  I haven't had any issues with getting any of them to fly from well tuned bow/arrow combos.  Of course it takes decent and consistent form to get the tuning right.

Lot different from the 1970s and 1980s!
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Terry Green on April 29, 2017, 06:33:00 AM
I don't recall having issues with any head..... but all my arrows over the years have been tuned.

Form work will do more for accuracy than some head.

have fun
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: David McLendon on April 30, 2017, 04:40:00 PM
I'm a stickler for bare shaft tuning, I use the Simmons Tree Shark most of the time and with good tuning and careful mounting I have had no issues with flight, and they are Hell when they get where they going.
My number two head is the 160gr Snuffer, they have the death whisper inflight but flight is true and they also make for short blood trails.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Bill Carlsen on April 30, 2017, 04:59:00 PM
For what it is worth ....when I shot off the shelf there were a number of heads that gave me fits. When I went back to an elevated rest I haven't had any trouble with any head of the weight that matched my tuned field points. In addition, I don't think I have lost only two deer in that time after going back to the elevated rest. For me that has been the biggest factor in getting good flight, increased accuracy  and a giant leap in recovered game.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Orion on May 01, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
Hmmm.  Let me see.  Zwickey (any model) Magnus, (any model), STOS, Abowyer, Woodsman, Hill and a few others.  They're all the best.    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: DarrinG on May 01, 2017, 09:44:00 PM
Like several others have said, get the bow/shaft tuned right, mount the head straight with no wobble and keep good form and all quality heads will shoot good. Once my bow/shaft was tuned correctly, I have had zero issues with the biggest Snuffers and other big heads flying true.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Bowhunter4life on May 01, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DarrinG:
Like several others have said, get the bow/shaft tuned right, mount the head straight with no wobble and keep good form and all quality heads will shoot good. Once my bow/shaft was tuned correctly, I have had zero issues with the biggest Snuffers and other big heads flying true.
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This!

Literally the tuning is key...  if your bow isn't tuned no broadhead is going to truthfully fly right...  But, if your bow isn't tuned correctly the narrower your head the better...  1"-1 1/8" heads will fly better then your 1 1/2" plus wide heads...  Simple physics...
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: on May 02, 2017, 04:44:00 PM
As I found, an arrow may seem to fly fine in most conditions, but there are times when high gusting and swirling winds can cause any arrow to misbehave.  Those situations are best to be avoided and no shots attempted.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: catman1 on May 02, 2017, 08:49:00 PM
175gr Woodsman's for me with a 50gr brass insert. Works great at 18-20 yards on spot, works for me and my set up.
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Post by: Tedd on May 02, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
I got some Centaur Big Game heads in the mail tonight.  We had a really windy evening so conditions were far from ideal. They are pretty big heads. Similar to Tree Sharks. As near as I can tell they fly as good as anything else. I find the tree sharks a little twichty but that could be in my head!
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: BRITTMAN on May 02, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Magnus stingers have worked the best for me
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Post by: Tajue17 on May 04, 2017, 11:28:00 AM
my bows usually answer that question for me,,, its alot cheaper!
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: hitman on May 06, 2017, 09:43:00 PM
VPA 3 blades and Zwickeys 2 blade.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: charles m on May 08, 2017, 04:47:00 PM
This cracks me up people actually think there is a best flying Broadhead, what a hoot!!!

I also thought tradgang members would know better than this, I guess not.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: on May 09, 2017, 07:10:00 PM
There are some variables that could make differences.  A tuned wood arrow in different conditions can behave differently than an excessive weight forward carbon.  The fletching requirements can be different, the balance will be different, the way strong cross currents affect it will be different.  With all of those variations various heads of different weights and designs can respond differently.  A perfectly made and tuned arrow in a zero wind environment will be no guarantee of what that arrow will do if it is bucking some bumpy sideways air.  Of course, in today's 20 yards and under carbon arrow shooter, those longer shots in a higher wind which were more common out west in previous archery times are not part of many bowhunters' experience today.
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2017, 10:45:00 PM
Pearson Deadheads take some doing even a tuned shaft-they really like being o straight. Like eskimos and woodsman
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: Terry Green on May 12, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
Whichever one that happens to be coming out of my bow
Title: Re: Best flying broadheads
Post by: on May 12, 2017, 02:40:00 PM
I have shot a number of deer with the large Deadheads. I do not remember them giving me a flight problem, I did have one not track through a deer straight, it looked like the head hit with blades horizontal.  The deer was angled by the time the arrow hit. The path the arrow traveled in the deer was diverted. I imagine the spoon shape of the head did not help, but it left a huge gash, which made the long blood trailing job fairly easy. One of those hits when an 85 pound bow with a stuffed Microflite made a major difference.  To get heads on straight I like to use a roller jig to check them.  Spinning is a check as well, but the roller jig tells me which way a wobbly head needs to go.